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Post by wallis on Mar 8, 2019 23:32:21 GMT
Well I've just finished watching the first episode. What can I say? How fecking niave were they two sets of parents?
I wonder what sexual orientation the two guys have now. Did their experiences with MJ dictate that? Both handsome men BTW.
My work colleague said it was hard to watch but it only revealed so far what I always believed. If it wasn't for the parental contributions backing everything up I would find it hard to believe the reminiscences of a 7 year old even though the experience of that life outwith their normal would have made a big imprint on their lives.
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Post by Charley Says... on Mar 8, 2019 23:47:40 GMT
Well I've just finished watching the first episode. What can I say? How fecking niave were they two sets of parents? I wonder what sexual orientation the two guys have now. Did their experiences with MJ dictate that?Both handsome men BTW. My work colleague said it was hard to watch but it only revealed so far what I always believed. If it wasn't for the parental contributions backing everything up I would find it hard to believe the reminiscences of a 7 year old even though the experience of that life outwith their normal would have made a big imprint on their lives. It delves into their sexual orientation in the second helping Walz...
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Post by CAEF on Mar 9, 2019 13:57:01 GMT
Jacko was a dirty sick pervert who loved boys. Wade's sister said "He never did anything to me". That is because you have a vagina, love. Jacko only targeted boys.
No wonder radio stations are pulling his music. If only they did that for Cliff Richard as well.
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Post by wallis on Mar 9, 2019 20:37:12 GMT
Just finished watching Part 2.
I remember the trial in 2005 and really wanted him to go down for the crimes but money, fear and adoration talked for MJ. Those stupid, starstruck Mothers should never have let their boys so called friendships mature with a man old enough to be their Father regardless of the lifestyle he gave them.
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Post by CAEF on Mar 10, 2019 19:29:49 GMT
The die hard fans will deny it but it has certainly let more cats out of the bag and radio stations are pulling his music. The victims in Leaving Neverland sounded very genuine and scarred by it all.
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Post by Teeks on Mar 11, 2019 1:44:02 GMT
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Post by Teeks on Mar 11, 2019 2:53:15 GMT
When Jackson was acquitted during the 2005 trial, many of his supporters felt validated by the acquittal and used it as ammunition to claim Jackson was indeed the victim of a witch-hunt and it was all brushed under the carpet again. But many of us who have objectively followed the story knew Jackson got away with it. I just found it very hard to believe that a man who admitted to going to bed with children was innocent of molesting children. Now all the gory details are finally coming out. Even though I thought he was guilty from the start, a part of me wondered if I was wrong after his acquittal, so it's good to finally learn the truth and get a detailed account from Michael Jackson's victims.
I'm dismayed at people who desperately try to defend their favourite celebrities from these sorts of accusations. It shouldn't matter how famous they are because pedos exist in every walk of life. It's really pathetic that people will defend a famous pedo just because they like his music and have put him on a pedestal (that goes for you too, Peter Andre, you naive, talentless Australian fool). None of these braindead fans know what happens behind closed doors. None of them know the victims or the celebrities on a personal level, and, yet, they assume the victim is lying and the celebrity is telling the truth. How does being famous and talented make you automatically innocent of all crimes? I need to understand this flawed mindset. It's such a dangerous mindset. We've created an environment where famous and powerful people can get away with anything they want with the help of their selfish enablers and their fanatically loyal supporters. That's why so many sexual abuse sufferers stay silent their whole lives. It's a depressing state of affairs for victims.
What's tragic is that it was Wade's testimony that apparently led to Jackson being acquitted (how dumb were the jury, though?), he lied for Jackson out of love because he was so messed up and confused by the abuse. We need to find a better way to support victims because many victims don't even realise they've been sexually abused. Wade himself didn't realise it until he became a father which is when he realised that he, too, was a victim of Jackson's abuse.
This could've all been avoided if the parents weren't so bloody naive and starstruck by Jackson. Jackson used his mega popstar status to enter the lives of these families and they were too blind to see that he was using them to get close to their sons. Why would you let your children spend time with a grown adult who has no business befriending children? Did none of them think it was weird? Or were they more worried about the benefits? It's mind boggling and shameful parenting. Some people are actually too stupid to consider that a famous celebrity could be a sexual predator. Under no circumstances do you let strangers spend time with your kids! No matter how famous that stranger is!
As for Wacko Jacko's music, never bought any of his music before thankfully, I haven't listened to any of his music since my early 20s and have no plans to revisit them. Banning his music is not enough, though. The dirty bastard got away with it and his enablers in America allowed him to escape punishment time and again. It makes you hope an afterlife does exist so spineless monsters like Michael Jackson and Jimmy Savile can suffer the torment they put their victims through.
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Post by Charley Says... on Mar 11, 2019 7:24:42 GMT
POST...!!! ^^^
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Post by CAEF on Mar 11, 2019 17:03:58 GMT
I hope Jacko and Savile are getting tortured in hell.
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Post by Teeks on Mar 11, 2019 18:06:04 GMT
Did anyone hear about the comments Rupert Everett made about Wacko Jacko's death in 2009? It's fair to say he didn't hold back! "I think it was fortuitous that he died. He was a freak. He looked like a character from Shrek. He was a black to white minstrel," Everett told the Daily Mirror.
"He was crucified by that court case when he was accused of child molestation – that killed him.
"He personified the pain and anxiety of a black man in a slave country. We all watched as he changed from black to white. He was living performance art." Michael Jackson is proof that the American Dream exists... he is the poor black boy who grew up to be a rich white woman. Amen to the American Dream!
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Post by CAEF on Mar 11, 2019 22:14:23 GMT
Jacko once claimed he descended from the McJackson clan of Scotland. The only clan he descended from was McKiddyfiddler.
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Post by wallis on Mar 11, 2019 22:44:51 GMT
I see MJ's nephew Taj is planning his own documentary.
He says, "It’s going to start off with the 1993 allegations because he think that’s where everything started. So it’s going to start there."
"It’s going to talk about the settlement in terms of the civil suit and why he settled. "At one point he was very against settling and angry and then gave in. So why did he do that? So it’s going to talk about all of that. 1993/1994 to 2005 are the big parts of his life."
"So this is not going to be a puff piece. it’s not going to be, ‘Oh, let’s show Michael Jackson the humanitarian.’ This is about exposing all the things that have been mustering for 20, 30 years."
He states that he is going to go with "the facts" and will interview people who have previously accused Jackson, as long as he is able to find them. "Jordy Chandler would be the biggest one for me." "People have already tried to reach out to him but he’s fled somewhere."
I wonder why?
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Post by Teeks on Mar 12, 2019 21:13:36 GMT
I can't wait to see Taj's warped explanation for all of Uncle Wacko's filthy crimes. I suppose he's going to tell us all of those victims are money-grabbers out to destroy his precious uncle just like the rest of his family keep saying. It's gonna be a brilliant piece of propaganda, I'm sure.
How do we know they won't pay people to say nice things about Jackson? They're so rich, they can probably bribe a few people to speak positively of Wacko Jacko and make a documentary based off that.
A part of me feels pity for the Jacksons because they're clearly in denial over who Michael Jackson was. They haven't given a second thought to the victims, so I can't help but loathe them at the same time.
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Post by Lotty27 on Mar 12, 2019 22:25:55 GMT
I haven't seen it yet, I tried but I didn't like the style as I thought it was be more like a documentary with a voice over etc not them just talking to camera. My problem I know but I'm going to give it another try when I'm in the mood.
However I have no doubts that Jackson's as guilty as sin. Never did. No normal man goes out of his way to sleep in the same bed with other people's small sons etc. And as been said many times if this was Michael Jackson a singer from your local pub and not megastar Michael Jackson he'd have been seen for what he was long before now. The pitchforks would have rightly been out for him.
As for the parents, don't get me started on them. Stardust in their eyes is the least of it. I know one of Jackson's victims says his mother/parents were also groomed but come on! As a parent the ONE THING we can do for our kids, whether we're rich or poor, whatever our colour or creed, is do out utmost to keep them SAFE. Warning bells would have rang like 1.000,000 church bells for me.
Were they well paid either financially or with presents to spend time alone with their sons and they chose to believe it was all innocent? Did some parents, perhaps of kids we've never heard of who haven't come forward, actually 'sell' their kids knowing what would happen? It doesn't bear thinking about.
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Post by CAEF on Mar 12, 2019 22:50:46 GMT
Fans who are in denial and go to whimsical lengths to protest his innocence usually know deep down that it must be true. Truth hurts and they cannot accept it.
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