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Post by Lotty27 on Apr 3, 2016 14:04:12 GMT
I'm quite interested to see the new Johnny. I wonder if they'll make him a carbon copy personality wise of the old Johnny or evolve him a bit to suit the new actor? I think James Bye is one of the best 'new heads' there's ever been, I find it hard to remember the old Martin now so let's hope that this Johnny proves just as successful AND let's hope he hangs around a bit longer than the last one lol! I suppose this is the trouble with very young actors many of them want to spread their wings and try something else or (dare I say it) once they've used the soap to get themselves known then think they're too talented for a soap! There's not many William Roache's out there (watched Road to Corrie the other day with my mum and we were laughing at his young attitude of not staying for long, only doing it because it was a few weeks yet he's still there 55+ years later! )
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Post by wallis on Apr 3, 2016 14:48:30 GMT
I'm quite interested to see the new Johnny. I wonder if they'll make him a carbon copy personality wise of the old Johnny or evolve him a bit to suit the new actor? I think James Bye is one of the best 'new heads' there's ever been, I find it hard to remember the old Martin now so let's hope that this Johnny proves just as successful AND let's hope he hangs around a bit longer than the last one lol! I suppose this is the trouble with very young actors many of them want to spread their wings and try something else or (dare I say it) once they've used the soap to get themselves known then think they're too talented for a soap! There's not many William Roache's out there (watched Road to Corrie the other day with my mum and we were laughing at his young attitude of not staying for long, only doing it because it was a few weeks yet he's still there 55+ years later! ) I totally agree Lotty. From the photos I've seen of new Johnny there's a wee bit of old Johnny about him. He seems to have settled well into the role according to the few reports I have read. It would be good if in a few months from now we had all forgotten about old Johnny and accepted Ted Reilly in much the same way as James Bye. In saying that though you can't blame the younger cast for wanting to seek out other roles in order to establish themselves as jobbing actors rather than being pigeon holed in soapland. Just about to watch 'The Road To CS'. I've never seen it before so looking forward to it going by the praise both on here and in the media.
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Post by Lotty27 on May 2, 2016 18:47:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 19:24:26 GMT
I chuckled at a comment on DS about how it'll be interesting to see him and Ben try to out-psycho each other. Personally I reckon Claudette, wherever she is, could eat 'em both for breakfast. Seriously though, I reckon this must signal the end of the Lucy s/l, surely...mustn't it? free-indifferent-smileys-697 smiley-biglaugh
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Post by Lotty27 on May 2, 2016 19:35:09 GMT
GOT to Dak and about bloomin' time! Just need a very Mad Max back now to get his revenge on all those who knew he was stitched up and did nothing - which is about half the square Love that comment about Claudia, I'll have to have a look lol!
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2016 19:40:57 GMT
GOT to Dak and about bloomin' time! Just need a very Mad Max back now to get his revenge on all those who knew he was stitched up and did nothing - which is about half the square Love that comment about Claudia, I'll have to have a look lol! Lotty, can you imagine how, erm, 'frustrated' Max will be after all those months in Walford nick?! Watch out ladies of Albert square! Especially Masood's blind date, who was a bit Emma Summerhayes-esque. smiley-biglaugh
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Post by kitkat1971 on May 15, 2016 14:00:22 GMT
It seems they are going down the assisted suicide route with Peggy. They have 'consulted with experts' and feel it is right for 'Peggy to wrestle back control from Cancer'.
I really wish they'd resisted the urge to do this. I know it is an important subject, one that many people deal with but just as many accept that Nature has to take its course and that doesn't make them weak which is what a phrase like 'wrestles back control of her life to not let Cancer win' suggest to me.
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Post by Lotty27 on May 15, 2016 14:58:12 GMT
I totally agree KK. Although in real life I'm a total advocate of being able to end your days if you want to I think showing this so soon after Hayley on Corrie is in poor taste and setting a bad example. Not everyone who gets cancer finishes themselves off and showing this on major soaps twice in about 28 months makes me a bit uncomfortable, as you say it is being trumpeted as the 'brave' thing to do, the staying in control one which again makes me disturbed. I can fully understand anyone wanting to do it and sparing both themselves and their loved ones from (what can be) the awful final days but I'm sure in the real world people who do this are a lot rarer than soaps would have us believe, they're almost normalising it.
Gone seemingly are the days when we took Alma to the natural conclusion of her cancer battle in Corrie, yes it was hard to watch but it was also a lot more real. Or they could have done a Pat and had the cancer accelerating very quickly, Peggy could have come back to the square having already seen her specialist weeks before and finding out there was no hope so came back to the square to die near her son. Again not everyone is bed bound before death, I know someone who went shopping one day and was dead 24 hours later.
Can't say it's a surprise but I too wish they hadn't gone down this path.
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Post by kitkat1971 on May 15, 2016 16:06:08 GMT
I actually think it is rather irresponsible of soaps, as well as being insulting.
Of course Cancer isn't pretty and some people do suffer a great deal, but there ways of managing the pain and helping people to die with dignity which does not involve suicide. I often think they make it seem that, as well as it being the 'brave' thing to do, it is the only solution if you don't want to spend weeks or months wasting away in agony and destroying your loved ones lives (they have to give up work to care for you, will never forget how different you were etc) in the process. So, to be kind to your family, as well as yourself, be kind and take this step.
Can you imagine how scary that idea would be if yo_kd just received a terminal diagnosis? Of course, you should get your info from the Doctors rather than a Soap but you never know.
Paliative Care in this country is underfunded but still wonderful (we had MacMillan Nurses coming in to my Granddad his last couple of weeks - he died of Cancer at our home when I was 24) - why can't they concentrate on that for a change? I guess they did show Stan dying in a Hospice last year which is something but they still had him asking for help to die prior to that and people expressing regret that they hadn't done it for him to save him what he went through at the end.
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Post by roverman on May 15, 2016 17:23:44 GMT
Yes, I came to the same conclusion the other night that Peggy is having the last word on this one. It seems DTC is hellbent on repeating the success Eastenders had with Ethel Skinner dying all those years ago, and for whatever reason it didn't happen when Stan Carter died, but now he may be getting his wish, after all I imagine this is his last big storyline and he, like Babs, wants to go in style....
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Post by Lotty27 on May 22, 2016 4:27:36 GMT
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Post by Lotty27 on Jul 9, 2016 16:20:01 GMT
Wow, this thread's slipped down the list! I thought it was pegged like the other ones. N'er mind, it's not a massive spoiler or anything but just my amazement at St Linda Carter of Albert Square: www.digitalspy.com/soaps/eastenders/news/a800716/eastenders-spoilers-shirley-carter-fights-for-buster-briggs/It's actually a bit insulting how forgiving they've got this woman considering how vilely Shirley treated her and we never even saw a proper apology! Who would be acting like this? Especially as it's the same woman who was supposed to have given Mick a 'Shirley or us' ultimatum years before after the fire. If I was Linda I'd be rubbing my hands in glee at Shirley's relationship going pear-shaped hoping she'd be throwing herself at Phil again just to be rebuffed and humiliated, I certainly couldn't be helping her to entice Buster back! But more likely I just wouldn't give a sh!t and be shrugging my shoulders. Hopefully this new man in charge will tone down the unbelievable St Linda stuff and have her behaving in a more realistic manner.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 17:03:20 GMT
Death spoiler Paul Coker is going to croak it.
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Post by wallis on Jul 9, 2016 17:08:54 GMT
Death spoiler Paul Coker is going to croak it. I thought they might do this.
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Post by Lotty27 on Jul 9, 2016 17:24:23 GMT
Death spoiler Paul Coker is going to croak it. For definite now is it? I thought so. Ben is far too happy for it to continue with even Phil accepting their relationship in his own grunty style! But as I said on DS I reckon they'll mainly concentrate on Ben's grief and the Coker's will be sidelined in their only grandchild's death (not forgetting their grief will be ten-fold as they've already lost their son, his dad ). I just have a feeling that TPTB think the Mitchell's are more important than the Cokers so we'll probably have scenes of Pam and Les going to console BEN! Don't get me wrong I know Ben will be beside himself with grief too, it's his first proper relationship and it ends in his partner's death but the Cokers will probably be inconsolable, they've lost everything. I hope not right though and it's handled fairly because I'll be fuming with steam coming out of my ears otherwise smiley-angry
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