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Post by Holey on Apr 28, 2019 15:59:20 GMT
A lot of people think Anita left to be Mrs Brian May and just sit at home washing his hair for him!But in 1989 she switched sides and went into an ITV sitcom called Split Ends, that lasted just 6 episodes, a show that was allegedly written for her. Then she did some theatre work and numerous one off appearances in popular shows like The Bill, Casaulty, Red Dwarf etc I suspect she didn’t want to be tied down to one show long term and enjoys playing one off characters although a lot of them to me felt like variations of Angie Watts!
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Post by roverman on Apr 28, 2019 17:04:35 GMT
Michelle and Sharon’s flat-I’m slightly amused by the lack of front door, all other versions of the flat had access to the main door!
The other interesting thing is the high frequency of times when we see Sue Tully wearing a nightshirt and very little else, not sure any of the female actresses would tolerate that today.
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Post by CAEF on Apr 28, 2019 17:57:56 GMT
Peter Dean must have put a bit of Just For Men in his hair up to 1989 as he seemed to go grey rather quickly in 1988/1989. In the first half of 1988 his hair was black, but by 1989 it was much greyer and he changed his hairstyle. I preferred his original side swept/smooth carpet style hair as opposed to the "blow dry" look.
I think Peter Dean may have been from Camden as opposed to Hoxton, and that he said he was from the East End to gain a better chance to get the role. A Londoner is a Londoner though as the city is so big, whether you are from Ealing or Bethnal Green.
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Post by roverman on Apr 28, 2019 19:49:37 GMT
The blow dry did make him look his characters age though. He was meant to be Pauline’s twin. 10 minutes older not 10 years!
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Post by CAEF on Apr 28, 2019 22:11:32 GMT
Arthur Fowler was only born in 1943 but played by an actor 13 years older, hence why Arthur looked 55 in 1985 and not 42. I am sure Bill Treacher also reached for the hair dye as his hair looks rather black in the 1980s with no grey.
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Post by roverman on Apr 29, 2019 11:59:48 GMT
The beauty of Bill Treacher being older is that he can play downtrodden depressive Arthur really well and portray the look that being out of work almost permanently can make you feel old before your time.
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Post by CAEF on Apr 29, 2019 12:49:56 GMT
The beauty of Bill Treacher being older is that he can play downtrodden depressive Arthur really well and portray the look that being out of work almost permanently can make you feel old before your time. Lou Beale was a megalomaniac I think. She always felt Arthur was never good enough for her Pauline, or Pat was good enough for Pete. I would hate to have Lou Beale as a neighbour/mother in law as she had this "marry my children, you also marry me essentially". I hate megalomaniacs, as usually they were once the victim of such people and are getting revenge on the world so to speak.
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Post by roverman on Apr 29, 2019 15:17:31 GMT
There’s always been a question mark over what Albert Beale was like as a husband and father. Pete did allude to something once in a row with Lou and Kenny a few months back which gave me the impression that she wore the trousers in their marriage and did not soften as a widow. Very “Queen Victoria” I felt.
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Post by CAEF on Apr 29, 2019 15:57:49 GMT
I think Lou was born that way. Born to command and wear the trousers, which can annoy people who are not bossy and are more laid back.
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Post by roverman on Apr 29, 2019 17:50:00 GMT
Oh and forgot to add, we had the first “Fat Pat” phrase uttered the other day. Ricky said stood outside by Pete’s stall.
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Post by CAEF on Apr 30, 2019 11:22:45 GMT
Pat was a hard faced cow in the 1980s but she softened a lot by 1991/1992. Pam St Clement used to be in Emmerdale in 1980 as Mrs Eckersley for 4 or 5 episodes. She still came across as Pat just saying "Ay up".
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Post by roverman on Apr 30, 2019 16:48:07 GMT
I categorise Pat the same as Dot, she may not have been on screen from Ep1 but she was talked about by the characters in those early episodes so in my book she’s just as central to the history of Walford as the likes of Pauline and Kathy and Angie.
I’m enjoying the Classic episodes a lot. I’ve watched repeats before but didn’t stick to them, whereas here I reckon I’ll be happy to watch them for as long as Drama keep airing them.
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Post by CAEF on Apr 30, 2019 17:45:18 GMT
Some may say that is "Proper EastEnders".
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Post by CAEF on Jun 3, 2019 12:54:02 GMT
Now into 1989, and the huge transition is continuing. The exit of the Osmans on top of the Watts, and Colin and Barry, as well as Lou, Lofty and Mary in 1988. The early years really did come to an end in spring 1988-October 1989. Ali Osman's exit in late 1989 capped off that exodus. I wish Tony and Kelvin had stayed on long term as well.
Soon coming into the arrival of the thuggish Mitchell family and the boring Tavernier family. 1990 was quite a lackluster year as the show took a long time to recover from the exit of the Watts, Osmans and many other originals.
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Post by roverman on Jun 3, 2019 12:58:55 GMT
It’s behind the scenes where the real drama was happening. A chap called Mike Gibbon took over as not only did Julia and Tony leave but also Keith Harris.
There had been complaints that the show was too dark and he attempted to inject some comedy.
History shows he failed, and all the he characters introduced were written out the following year. 1990 saw the Mitchell brothers arrive and many see it as a new chapter for Walford.
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