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Post by kitkat1971 on Feb 19, 2016 1:35:32 GMT
A place to discuss and rant about Robron fans destroying any discussion on other Emmerdale subjects so we don't derail the episode discussion thread too much.
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Post by kitkat1971 on Feb 19, 2016 1:40:39 GMT
I thought I'd look at the Appreciation thread after the stuff on the character Poll one and sure enough, they're bleating about being picked on.
They're saying they'll just stay there as it is 'safer'. Yes, that's the point of an Appreciation Thread. It is specifically there for like minded people that love a character to go and talk about how great the character is and have lots of people agree, listing why they love them without having anybody come on and say anything negative.
You can't expect that on the main forum. You just can't. So why do they insist on reacting badly to anybody that says something negative?
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Post by Lotty27 on Feb 19, 2016 2:49:33 GMT
... and more to the point KK why does DS do nothing about it instead of quietly shoving them in the direction of the appreciation thread? I remember all that Chryed mania from EE a few years ago but don't remember it taking over the main forum in the same way that Robron fans have, they mainly kept it to their dedicated appreciation thread and it had to be the biggest and quickest moving appreciation thread there's ever been!
It's a bit like Mona and her obsessive love of Shirley and Phil and all threads that were derailed by that. All this excess posting and 'shipping' does is put others off the characters, I'm sure some people actually liked Shirley but Mona's tunnel vision and intractability put them off her (and I still blame her for the fact that to this day some threads can fall into Shirley -v- Sharon contests!) It's the same with Robron I reckon, I bet there's some DS posters who've been put right off them whereas before they probably didn't mind/had no particular feelings about them.
I must admit that I've been giving the ED threads a bit of wide berth because of the Robronners lately, it's been like wading through treacle which is why the 'No Aaron' thread is so good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 8:07:24 GMT
A place to discuss and rant about Robron fans destroying any discussion on other Emmerdale subjects so we don't derail the episode discussion thread too much. Thank goodness for that!  |
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Post by kitkat1971 on Feb 19, 2016 9:42:02 GMT
They just don't seem to understand what the problem is. Saying stuff like "i don't like Cain, Ross etc but I don't attack anybody that says they do" and "the most offensive comment I've seen is that DM isn't as good an actor as such and such" and calling their detractors "passive aggressive" and "ranters", "poisonous" that they're being "banned" from the main forum and "yet to find where in DS rules it states we can only talk about them in "Appreciation Threads". That "nobody was nasty to Rserved, they just asked for him to be nice about Robron and got pounced on".
Last point first, they had no right to "just ask Reserved to be nice about RobRon". It was Reserved's thread, he had every right to say whatever he wanted about To about RobRon without censure. Nobody else felt the need to say "be nice to my favourite character" - even well known fans like Star89 for Debbie. That is what annoys people.
Of course there is nothing in the forum rules to ban all discussion of any character or pairing, even if it is relentlessly positive. Again, that isn't what people are objecting to. It is them bringing them up in any and every discussion and reacting badly to anybody that disagrees.
People's views on acting is subjective. And many's subjective view is that Miller is a bit of a one trick pony, very good at the waterworks but not much else and people are bored of it. They are allowed to think that, to think that other actors are better and more convincing. But, I think that most probably do rate Miller fairly highly, it is just the over the top worship from some quarters is getting on their nerves so much they are biting back and being harsher than they otherwise would be.
Which is indeed what happened with Shirley because of Mona and you're right Lotty, she and the "Sharon vs Shirley" war and animosity has never entirely gone away despite her having been banned a couple of years ago so it really can be quite damaging.
Still, preaching to the converted here I know. I wish i could say it on DS and them comprehend it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 10:26:35 GMT
Brilliant posting - that really stuck it to them  I'm just rather surprised that the Mods actually allowed it. |
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Post by kitkat1971 on Feb 19, 2016 10:56:47 GMT
Somebody on the episode thread commenting on how quiet it is. That's because most sensible people have defected to the "Aaron free" thread to discuss the episode - there was plenty of traffic there last night!
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Post by Oldnjaded on Feb 19, 2016 12:38:04 GMT
I know it seems obvious but I really do think if we could all just grit our teeth, be the bigger people, and stop responding to the Knobronners, they'd soon bugger off back to their own little thread. But there are always a few perfectly nice posters who just can't resist taking the bait every time, thus fuelling the fire - because Knobronners always have to have the last word. I wish people would just let them have it or it'll never end.  |
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Post by Oldnjaded on Feb 19, 2016 12:42:41 GMT
Oh, and while we're at it, I don't think for a single second that any Knobronner notices or gives a toss about whether the Robron actors are any good or not. It's purely about the gay relationship and them being perceived as 'hot' and the more gay sex they get to see the happier they are. Jeez, could they not just google "gay porn" and get their kicks there instead of waiting for a soap to provide it?
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Post by CAEF on Feb 19, 2016 12:47:14 GMT
Knobron. The DS world has gone Knobron mad.
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Post by Lady W on Feb 19, 2016 12:48:36 GMT
Trying to reason with those RobRonners would be like trying to reason with Beliebers or Directioners; you simply can't get them to understand that their 'Zomg! RobRon 4eva! LOLZ!' tripe is only interesting to them, hence the reason for appreciation threads. "I've seen posts from people who say they love Nikhil" ... The fact that they're trying to conflate their RR appreciation thread effectively spilling out over the main forum with other FMs merely mentioning characters they like would be laughable if it wasn't so tedious. I agree about it being Mona-esq. She was never out for a rational debate about anything to do with 'Phirley', she obsessively wanted everyone to concede to her, frankly bizarre, interpretations of the two and it's the same with the RR lot; seems all they want to do is cheerlead for 'their boys' (  ) . As we can see on the Dark Side, it gets to the point where people are loathed to even mention the names because it's like lighting the blue touch paper - and that's what people on there are sick to death of, RobRon stans!! |
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Post by sheepiefarm on Feb 19, 2016 12:58:53 GMT
The problem for me is - that I actually WANT to talk about the storyline - I want to talk about what I think is WRONG with it. I do stick my neck above the parapet to get my point across - but my god its tedious with all the flak you end up getting for it. fighting-230 I don't actually hate the characters - I HATE the effing storyline..........with a PASSION m1323 Oh hello by the way - some of youse might know me from t'other place.  But the sad truth is - whether we like it or not - Robron are storyline for eternity now. No producer will be brave enough to suffer the social media abuse that these fans will give them if they don't get the "Romance" they want. |
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Post by kitkat1971 on Feb 19, 2016 13:13:35 GMT
Oh, and while we're at it, I don't think for a single second that any Knobronner notices or gives a toss about whether the Robron actors are any good or not. It's purely about the gay relationship and them being perceived as 'hot' and the more gay sex they get to see the happier they are. Jeez, could they not just google "gay porn" and get their kicks there instead of waiting for a soap to provide it? Yes, that is certainly part of it. When discussing them coming first and second on their App thread (fair enough, right place to enthuse over it), one poster did state that the reason that Robert beat Aaron is that Ryan is blonde and 'boyish' whereas Danny is dark and has a beard?! Jeez, most people not overly invested in that relationship were (mostly) voting on how good the character is, not how sexy or handsome the actor is! I know you're right, it probably should just be ignored but Tbf, i think people have been mainly doing that for over a year and it just seems to get worse - a bit of a "give them an inch, they'll take a mile". I must admit, usually I wouldn't rise to it and don't care enough about the pairing to generally voice an opinion but I'm getting quite wound up by it, and the abuse they're directing at other posters I do want to bite back, even though I've resisted so far. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2016 13:21:12 GMT
Wow, this thread is an education! I've not really been following Emmerdale much lately nor reading anythin Emmy related on DS. I'd heard of these Robronners but didn't know the situation was as fraught. Reminds me a little of the EE Dean apologists in a sense. That was 'looks' driven afaic.
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Post by CAEF on Feb 19, 2016 13:23:48 GMT
I wonder if many of the Knobronners hope Knobron will get married after their Robronmance.
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) . As we can see on the Dark Side, it gets to the point where people are loathed to even mention the names because it's like lighting the blue touch paper - and that's what people on there are sick to death of, RobRon stans!! 
