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Post by AngelicPrincess on Apr 22, 2015 6:57:29 GMT
Shirley fans are pretty much why I left DS. The racist troll I had an issue with was one. And I wont get on to the crazy one who got banned.
I don't like Shirley as although I liked my characters flawed I like the writers to acknowledge it like they did say Janine. But when they write her as the victim and hero of the piece all the time its infuriating and intelligence insulting. And I am sick of her being shoehorned into every plot. Or people who have been wronged by her licking her bum like Linda or Sharon. Remember when Mick thought Stan tried to drown him? He nearly murdered him, found out it was Shirley and offered her a hug. Characters saying poor Shirley and acting like she is a victim. She isn't. She is a bunny boiling violent thug. And I hate the writers pretending she is some hero. Linda Henry is good but the writing for Shirley stinks hence she is unlikeable. And she drags the Carters down. I am bored of Mick and it is down to Shirley. Both week 17 and Week 18 spoilers have the exact same spoiler about them. Same thing we already saw onscreen a million times. And they hate Linda because of it too. Shirley's actions pre rape should have seen her kicked out.
And the rape plot is less about Linda and all about Shirley and Mick. No doubt Shirley will deliver the baby the hero she is. Its so insulting to such a serious issue.
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Post by maurice45 on Apr 22, 2015 14:17:36 GMT
Shirley fans are pretty much why I left DS. The racist troll I had an issue with was one. And I wont get on to the crazy one who got banned.
I don't like Shirley as although I liked my characters flawed I like the writers to acknowledge it like they did say Janine. But when they write her as the victim and hero of the piece all the time its infuriating and intelligence insulting. And I am sick of her being shoehorned into every plot. Or people who have been wronged by her licking her bum like Linda or Sharon. Remember when Mick thought Stan tried to drown him? He nearly murdered him, found out it was Shirley and offered her a hug. Characters saying poor Shirley and acting like she is a victim. She isn't. She is a bunny boiling violent thug. And I hate the writers pretending she is some hero. Linda Henry is good but the writing for Shirley stinks hence she is unlikeable. And she drags the Carters down. I am bored of Mick and it is down to Shirley. Both week 17 and Week 18 spoilers have the exact same spoiler about them. Same thing we already saw onscreen a million times. And they hate Linda because of it too. Shirley's actions pre rape should have seen her kicked out.
And the rape plot is less about Linda and all about Shirley and Mick. No doubt Shirley will deliver the baby the hero she is. Its so insulting to such a serious issue. This is the thing I really hate about the Shirley character, and what bothered me about Stacey circa 2010. We know the character is flawed, and they continue to go out of their way to demonstrate the fact. However, whenever anybody calls them out on it, they throw their rattles out of the pram and start blaming everyone but themselves for their actions. Charlie Cotton's bothering me in the same way now, too, using Ronnie's coma as an excuse to cheat. Seriously, he actually had to be told that it wasn't Ronnie's fault she had the accident!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 22, 2015 20:49:37 GMT
Funny you should say that AP, there's been a BBC leak... Monday 22nd June 2015
Shirley vows to fight for Roya and refuses to let the Masoods get in her way.
Linda's emotional baby shower is short lived when Dean and Shirley make an appearance.
It's a day of surprises for the Carters as Babe makes a trifle.
Tuesday 23rd June 2015
Linda's day is full of surprises as she starts to feel twinges and is pampered by her friends and family.
Shirley is pi$$ed off that Linda is getting all the attention. During a confrontation, she demands she get a paternity test...
Tina organises a karaoke party for Linda's bump.
Thursday 25th June 2015
Dean clashes with Shirley again, accusing her of trying to bring Roya back to Walford so that she can prove herself as a responsible mother.
A stressed Linda tries to go about her daily business. As she hides from Dean, her waters break. Shirley is passing in a cab about to leave Walford and orders them to stop. Linda hops in and begs Shirley to call Mick...
Karaoke night begins at the Vic but Mick and Max are busy trying to get themselves out of the mess they find themselves in with Phil.
Friday 26th June 2015
Shirley's phone is dead and she plays midwife in the cab as they head to the hospital. When the cab breaks down, Shirley is forced to deliver the baby....
Carter karaoke plays over the birth scenes with Babe, Tina and Lee all taking to the mic.
Mick and Dean come to blows when Dean takes Phil's side in the Phil/Max feud.
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Post by amber jade on Apr 22, 2015 21:25:09 GMT
Funny you should say that AP, there's been a BBC leak... Monday 22nd June 2015
Shirley vows to fight for Roya and refuses to let the Masoods get in her way.
Linda's emotional baby shower is short lived when Dean and Shirley make an appearance.
It's a day of surprises for the Carters as Babe makes a trifle.
Tuesday 23rd June 2015
Linda's day is full of surprises as she starts to feel twinges and is pampered by her friends and family.
Shirley is pi$$ed off that Linda is getting all the attention. During a confrontation, she demands she get a paternity test...
Tina organises a karaoke party for Linda's bump.
Thursday 25th June 2015
Dean clashes with Shirley again, accusing her of trying to bring Roya back to Walford so that she can prove herself as a responsible mother.
A stressed Linda tries to go about her daily business. As she hides from Dean, her waters break. Shirley is passing in a cab about to leave Walford and orders them to stop. Linda hops in and begs Shirley to call Mick...
Karaoke night begins at the Vic but Mick and Max are busy trying to get themselves out of the mess they find themselves in with Phil.
Friday 26th June 2015
Shirley's phone is dead and she plays midwife in the cab as they head to the hospital. When the cab breaks down, Shirley is forced to deliver the baby....
Carter karaoke plays over the birth scenes with Babe, Tina and Lee all taking to the mic.
Mick and Dean come to blows when Dean takes Phil's side in the Phil/Max feud.
Great joke spoilers DJ (at least I hope they're a joke!)
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Post by maurice45 on Apr 24, 2015 15:24:07 GMT
Apparently we're only halfway - HALFWAY - through the rape s/l. Give me strength
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Post by Lady W on Apr 24, 2015 16:21:56 GMT
Apparently we're only halfway - HALFWAY - through the rape s/l. Give me strength How depressing is that? I think I'm definitely going to set up my Carter drinking game because that's probably the only way I'll be able to tolerate the same scene being played out over and over again for the forseeable.
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Post by amber jade on Apr 24, 2015 17:56:19 GMT
Another annoying thing is how one week Mick or/and Shirley are upset because the other won't talk to them, and the next they're slagging each other off. It just goes round in circles.
And wtf was that all about in last night's ep with the sawing the sign in half and offering that money. It was ridiculous
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Post by sherwood on Apr 25, 2015 15:44:53 GMT
Another annoying thing is how one week Mick or/and Shirley are upset because the other won't talk to them, and the next they're slagging each other off. It just goes round in circles. And wtf was that all about in last night's ep with the sawing the sign in half and offering that money. It was ridiculous I have absolutely no idea what that was about I still don't really understand how Shirley seems to own any of the pub let alone why she ever got her name on the licensing bit From what I recall Mick bought the pub but they needed some repairs and Shirley got the money from Stan but why is that her investment, surely it's Stan's or the money would belong to them all now as they are all members of the same family plus Stan is dead now anyway. Also, I seem to remember that to be nice and inclusive of Shirley Mick put her name above the door but Shirley seems to think she owns the gaffe Mind this is a Shirley that believes she has a god given right to everyone else's money and belongings so who knows
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Post by amber jade on Apr 25, 2015 17:31:51 GMT
Another annoying thing is how one week Mick or/and Shirley are upset because the other won't talk to them, and the next they're slagging each other off. It just goes round in circles. And wtf was that all about in last night's ep with the sawing the sign in half and offering that money. It was ridiculous I have absolutely no idea what that was about I still don't really understand how Shirley seems to own any of the pub let alone why she ever got her name on the licensing bit From what I recall Mick bought the pub but they needed some repairs and Shirley got the money from Stan but why is that her investment, surely it's Stan's or the money would belong to them all now as they are all members of the same family plus Stan is dead now anyway. Also, I seem to remember that to be nice and inclusive of Shirley Mick put her name above the door but Shirley seems to think she owns the gaffe Mind this is a Shirley that believes she has a god given right to everyone else's money and belongings so who knows The God given right thing is probably it. She's a total wally
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 20:37:58 GMT
No Shirley, Dean, Mick or Linda until Monday.
** embrace the madness **
What was the point of Queen Shirley's one scene appearance yesterday?
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Post by Lotty27 on May 5, 2015 18:00:29 GMT
Just watching last night's EE now and Shirley was bloody vile in the Vic! Once again, IN PUBLIC, calling Linda a liar, handing our her rapists leaflets for his salon, mouthing off about him being wrongly accused etc. Didn't she say "you're not getting off with this" to Linda? Vile, vile, vile. She'll have to eat some humble pie when she finds out but no doubt she'll still somehow end up getting the sympathy *roll eyes* Even if she has been taken in by Dean and his lies, that still means she thinks he slept with Linda so how is mouthing off in public like that going to help Mick? Just when you think that Shirley can't get any lower.
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Post by Lady W on May 5, 2015 18:12:23 GMT
I still reckon, when the truth eventually comes out about Dean, that Shirley will just blub about "trying to be a decent mum for once" and Linda will be superhumanly forgiving because she'll understand about going to any lengths to protect your kids or some guff like that...
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Post by Lotty27 on May 5, 2015 18:30:03 GMT
I still reckon, when the truth eventually comes out about Dean, that Shirley will just blub about "trying to be a decent mum for once" and Linda will be superhumanly forgiving because she'll understand about going to any lengths to protect your kids or some guff like that... Oh yes, I think we can take it was read that Linda will be all forgiving. It's actually starting to get on my wick now just how forgiving they've got Linda being. Personally I'd like to hear a bit more fire from Linda, declaring that she never wants to hear Shirley's name ever again never mind have to put up with her and actively encouraging Mick to make up with her. Make up with someone calling me a liar, declaring that I'd never been raped? Not on your nelly (as my Gran would've said).
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Post by maurice45 on May 5, 2015 18:34:55 GMT
I still reckon, when the truth eventually comes out about Dean, that Shirley will just blub about "trying to be a decent mum for once" and Linda will be superhumanly forgiving because she'll understand about going to any lengths to protect your kids or some guff like that... Oh yes, I think we can take it was read that Linda will be all forgiving. It's actually starting to get on my wick now just how forgiving they've got Linda being. Personally I'd like to hear a bit more fire from Linda, declaring that she never wants to hear Shirley's name ever again never mind have to put up with her and actively encouraging Mick to make up with her. Make up with someone calling me a liar, declaring that I'd never been raped? Not on your nelly (as my Gran would've said). I know, this drives me up the wall! If this does happen, the truth does come out and Linda DOES still remain all forgiving, then I might just pull half the hair off my head in frustration. And knowing Shirley, if she then starts saying "it's okay, Dean, Linda's forgiven you" then I'll rip out the rest of my hair!
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Post by Lady W on May 5, 2015 18:42:59 GMT
Oh yes, I think we can take it was read that Linda will be all forgiving. It's actually starting to get on my wick now just how forgiving they've got Linda being. Personally I'd like to hear a bit more fire from Linda, declaring that she never wants to hear Shirley's name ever again never mind have to put up with her and actively encouraging Mick to make up with her. Make up with someone calling me a liar, declaring that I'd never been raped? Not on your nelly (as my Gran would've said). I loved that one scene where Linda just let fly at Shirley and said something like she'd enjoy the hurt Shirley woud feel when she realised that Dean was a rapist. Of course Linda finally fighting her corner after Shirley's constant abuse didn't go down too well on DS from what I remember *roll eyes* In real life, faaaamily or not, Shirley would've been shunned a long time ago.
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