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Post by saucysorcha on May 20, 2015 19:46:07 GMT
Ms calender was fascinating. Poor Giles David B was fantastic as angel despite a very questionable irish accent. I love him in bones too. Bahahaha!! It is pretty cringeworthy when he's in his Liam persona As bad accents go though, I think Kendra takes the crown!! To this day I still don't know WTH it's supposed to be smiley-huh My heart breaks for Giles every single time. The whole set up of the romantic night in with the champagne and rose petals; the opera music perfectly timed for Giles to find her on the bed...argh! Angelus is such a sadistic bastard! Kendra was the worst ever. I also thought faith was brilliant aswell and the mayor.
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Post by Lady W on May 20, 2015 19:57:31 GMT
Faith's bloody brilliant! I love her and I always will Although she'd changed, she's one of the few positives I give to S7.
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Post by ScrabblyWabbly on May 20, 2015 21:21:55 GMT
Ms calender was fascinating. Poor Giles David B was fantastic as angel despite a very questionable irish accent. I love him in bones too. Bahahaha!! It is pretty cringeworthy when he's in his Liam persona As bad accents go though, I think Kendra takes the crown!! To this day I still don't know WTH it's supposed to be smiley-huh My heart breaks for Giles every single time. The whole set up of the romantic night in with the champagne and rose petals; the opera music perfectly timed for Giles to find her on the bed...argh! Angelus is such a sadistic bastard! Coincidink, I have just rewatched that episode. I liked Jenny, she and Giles just seemed to fit. But I suppose Angel had to kill one of the Scooby gang and she was the least important but her death still affected the group. I enjoyed seeing Giles attack Angel too, he could be really badass when he wanted to be. Yes Kendra is awful, I read somewhere that the accent was a last minute thing and they hired a voice coach for the actress but she didn't really have the time to perfect it.
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Post by Lady W on May 20, 2015 21:47:34 GMT
Coincidink, I have just rewatched that episode. I liked Jenny, she and Giles just seemed to fit. But I suppose Angel had to kill one of the Scooby gang and she was the least important but her death still affected the group. I enjoyed seeing Giles attack Angel too, he could be really badass when he wanted to be. Yes Kendra is awful, I read somewhere that the accent was a last minute thing and they hired a voice coach for the actress but she didn't really have the time to perfect it. I've read a load of contrasting explanations for why Kendra talks like that! I don't know what to believe but, in a weird way, I wouldn't want it any other way because she wouldn't be Kendra if she had a normal voice! BIB - I think when you watch it for the first time, Angelus actually killing Jenny is a real smiley-yikes moment because I think the expectation is that he'd turn back into Angel before he did any real damage so he could reunite with Buffy and be re-intergrated with the Scoobies and the whole Angelus thing would just be a horrible memory. The fact that he actually murdered Jenny meant that he simply had go die too, there was no swerving it and that was such an OMG moment because this was Angel and he and Buffy were meant to be together blah blah blah. It was the moment where Angel became a proper threat to everyone as opposed to just Buffy's problem. The way that chase scene through the school was set up made it appear like a cliché where either Jenny would eventually escape of Buffy would show up at the last minute; the fact that she died set a real 'bloody hell, no-one's safe' atmosphere when we'd all just assumed that the Scooby gang will be ok no matter what. Of course the fallout is brilliant and, yes, Giles unleashing his 'Ripper' side is always good to see!
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Post by ScrabblyWabbly on May 27, 2015 19:38:40 GMT
Just watched a New Man, love the bit where Giles in demon form ran after Maggie Walsh just to scare her. Love Giles, he oozes sex appeal while not being physically attractive. There was rumours of an English spin off with Giles, would have been interesting to see where they took his character.
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Post by CollieWobbles on May 27, 2015 23:58:26 GMT
I liked Kendra and her accent redface4 .
My top episodes would have to be Once More With Feeling, The Gift, Fool For Love, Lovers Walk, Smashed, Tabula Rasa, Prophecy Girl, School Hard, Passion, Becoming, Graduation Day, Buffy vs Dracula, Hush, Primeval, Restless, Out Of My Mind, Intervention and Band Candy.
I also really like some of the episodes that most don't like much, such as Go Fish, I Only Have Eyes For You, The Pack, The Puppet Show, The Harsh Light Of Day.
Theres none that I really dislike (apart for the end of Empty Places smiley-angry ), but I can't stand that spider in Selfless, or those things in the box of gavrox, the scene with the Mayor eating them is just smiley-yikes .
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Post by kitkat1971 on May 28, 2015 13:56:17 GMT
Just watched a New Man, love the bit where Giles in demon form ran after Maggie Walsh just to scare her. Love Giles, he oozes sex appeal while not being physically attractive. There was rumours of an English spin off with Giles, would have been interesting to see where they took his character. I love 'A New Man' especially all the jokes about Giles' car. "Why would a demon steal a car?". "Why would a demon steal THAT car" plus Spike's "i don't know if I'm driving this thing wearing it". I've always loved how Spike calls Giles 'Rupert' all through season 4 - I don't know why but it really brings home that he is 'old' somehow.
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Post by kitkat1971 on May 28, 2015 14:02:21 GMT
I'm inordinately fond of "I Only Have Eyes For You" - pretty much perfect in every way and yet, yes, it tends to get forgotten about. I'd say it is because it isn't 'arc heavy' or have big 'game changing' events in it unlike most of the other stand out episodes of late season 2 (Innocence, Passion, Becoming) but there is important stuff in there like discovering that Spike can walk again and is actively plotting against Angel. In fact, it is probably the pivotal episode for turning Spike 'sympathetic' so his truce with Buffy, both in Becoming and then season 4 is believable.
I love 'Lovers Walk' too, another, on the face of it 'insignificant' episode which is actually very important character wise for the whole show.
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Post by Lady W on May 28, 2015 19:14:03 GMT
Lovers Walk is a great episode and it gets bonus points for signalling the end of the awful Willow/Xander affair - I really hated that. Spike is simply fabulous alll the way through; pouring his heart out to Joyce in Buffy's house, miming biting her when Angel shows up, mopily reminiscing about the good times with Drusilla (ie. talking about killing the homeless man on the bench and Buffy's deadpan "I guess you had to be there" response) and hhim tearing back out of Sunnydale singing 'My Way'...just brilliant!
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Post by kitkat1971 on May 28, 2015 19:37:38 GMT
There is so much foreshadowing in 'Lovers Walk' too about how Buffy/Angel/Spike would play out even though it was obviously unintentional (Spike wasn't even coming back as a regular then, let alone as a love iinterest) but the fact that Spike 'gets' Buffy, understands her and sees the 'real' her in a way nobody else does and isn't scared to voice it plays a lot into their later relationship and why he was a 'better' match for her in most ways.
LW was actually one of the first episodes i saw but out of order. My brother was getting NTSC tapes from America due to editing a telefantasy magazine, i'd seen a couple of episodes on BBC2 from season 2 (Lie to Me was the first) and then they took it off so Ant lent me the tape he happened to have to placate me and it was 'Revealations' and 'Lovers Walk'. If i wasn't obsessed before that i was afterwards!
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Post by ScrabblyWabbly on May 29, 2015 17:04:06 GMT
I am pretty sure I watched the first episode of Buffy on BBC2 when it aired, in fact there used to be a really good selection of fantasy/sci-if shows on BBC2 in the nineties around teatime.
I find that the best fantasy are the ones that incorporate real life issues. I mean not only was Buffy the "chosen one" but she had to fit that in between her studies, hanging out with her friends, her boyfriend and had an overbearing mother. You could relate to it, the early seasons weren't really plot heavy. Buffys main goal was to defeat the bad guys.
I do think it's a shame that we don't have more fantasy shows that have strong female leads. Generally the female characters are there to support the main character.
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Post by Lady W on May 29, 2015 23:47:22 GMT
There is so much foreshadowing in 'Lovers Walk' too about how Buffy/Angel/Spike would play out even though it was obviously unintentional (Spike wasn't even coming back as a regular then, let alone as a love iinterest) but the fact that Spike 'gets' Buffy, understands her and sees the 'real' her in a way nobody else does and isn't scared to voice it plays a lot into their later relationship and why he was a 'better' match for her in most ways. LW was actually one of the first episodes i saw but out of order. My brother was getting NTSC tapes from America due to editing a telefantasy magazine, i'd seen a couple of episodes on BBC2 from season 2 (Lie to Me was the first) and then they took it off so Ant lent me the tape he happened to have to placate me and it was 'Revealations' and 'Lovers Walk'. If i wasn't obsessed before that i was afterwards! I love the continuity that stems from LW in future episodes; actually seeing the flashback to Spike, Dru and the Chaos Demon in Fool For Love and also Spike's method of winning his woman over ie. tying them up and mistreating them until they like him, like he did in Crush. It's continuity like that which makes me love Buffy so much. Revelations is a brilliant episode too! Every time it gets to the end I'm dying to know what Faith was going to say to Buffy! I feel really bad for Faith being conned by Gwendolyn Post since it only pushes her away from Buffy and co even more. I am pretty sure I watched the first episode of Buffy on BBC2 when it aired, in fact there used to be a really good selection of fantasy/sci-if shows on BBC2 in the nineties around teatime. I remember the first time I saw Buffy. I was a scanning a TV guide and the little blurb caught my eye because it said Buffy fought Dracula and I was intrigued so decided to stick it on; and, yes, it was exactly BBC2 at teatime After that I was hooked but, looking back, I wish I'd have got into it sooner because starting at S5 meant that I didn't get the big WTH? moment about Dawn along with several other things. That being said, I was only a young'un back then so a lot of stuff went over my head; when I watched from scratch when I was a bit older, I could properly understand/engage with it to the point where it still remains my ultimate favourite TV show and I could talk about it until the cows came home...and then I could talk to the cows.
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Post by kitkat1971 on May 30, 2015 0:12:29 GMT
I remember how i 'found' Buffy very well.
My brother had been going on about it for ages (as i say he's a journalist as well as huge telefantasy fan and was working on tv mags at the time) - telling me there was this show i should watch and I just kind of ignored it as frankly I was in my late twenties, just bought a house, had a great job working in London, busy social life and frankly had better things to do with my time!
Then, late one Sunday night, whilst I was getting ready for ned after my bath i put the tv on which happened to be BBC2 and became entranced with this weird couple and dialogue. I couldn't quite decide if it was crap or wonderful. I can tell you the exact scene the 'the bird is dead, you didn't feed it and now it is dead' between Dru and Spike. Kept watching the rest of the episode and loved it. Then watched the next couple but they stopped them. At which point i started asking my brother for old episodes which he didn't have but he did have the ones airing in America so i watched them and then started buying the VHS releases.
I know Anthony's (my brother) first episode was "I Robot, You Jane" on first transmission on BBC2.
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Post by Lady W on May 30, 2015 0:22:36 GMT
Ouch, I Robot, You Jane isn't a particularly good one of S1 (imo); good job your brother stuck with it until the decent stuff arrived!!
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Post by Hayley on May 30, 2015 0:39:47 GMT
I am pretty sure I watched the first episode of Buffy on BBC2 when it aired, in fact there used to be a really good selection of fantasy/sci-if shows on BBC2 in the nineties around teatime. I find that the best fantasy are the ones that incorporate real life issues. I mean not only was Buffy the "chosen one" but she had to fit that in between her studies, hanging out with her friends, her boyfriend and had an overbearing mother. You could relate to it, the early seasons weren't really plot heavy. Buffys main goal was to defeat the bad guys. I do think it's a shame that we don't have more fantasy shows that have strong female leads. Generally the female characters are there to support the main character. I first caught Buffy on BBC2 as well I think they use to air in the night time. I don't think there has been a show to match the elements you said ever again, it all very CGI now. I miss the days of Charmed, Dawson's Creek, Dark Angel, I guess there all dated now but do really have a lot of relevancy even in today's society.
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